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New Ranking System
« on: April 06, 2011, 07:32:03 PM »

Ok, so if you've checked your stats today you've probably noticed that the ranking formula is a lot different. First off there may be things wrong with it and it will likely be changed a bit.

FFA:
The way this new formula works is that it takes into account your skill as well as the quality of the games you are winning. Based on your game performance, you get a skill rating. This rating is based upon your W/L, KD, amount of games you've gotten the best KDA in, and the amount of high ranked games you've won. When a game is played, the accumulative skill points of the players are pooled together. Your payout is determined based on the total skill points of a game and the position you earn. A combination of your average payouts and your skill level determine your rank. It works in a completely different way compared to the old formula, so trying to compare them is useless.

1v1:
Follows the same concept except the winner's payout is based on the loser's skill. High ranked players won't get a ton of payout for beating a low skilled player, yet a low skilled player can greatly benefit from beating a high skilled player. This way players actually have to prove their skill and can't get a high rank by simply noob stomping.

The changes in skill and payout do not follow the same pattern dictated by the old formula because averages play a large role. This allows for more growth when a player gets better.


Whats the best way to get to the top?

As always, win as much as you can. Always strive for the best KD; it plays a huge factor now. Also, play good players. If you are avoiding good players your payouts will be shitty and remember that your average payout plays a huge role in your rank. Don't be discouraged if your points are going down and you are winning games, if you are performing well your points will soon reflect that so play a few more games and you're likely to experience a big point boost.

NOTES:
In FFA games, it now pays to stay. Position matters now because it determines your payout, so fight till the end.

Players with a bunch of games played will not see their rank increasing if their skill isn't. (IE no more people will be ranked 18th with 10/1000 games won :P.)
 
Expect global average payouts to count for more as the season progresses because the average skill points per player will increase. Also, since your own skill level influences your payout, it's less advisable to constantly restart your account; if you are good your skill level increases thus your payouts over time are increasingly incremented.

« Last Edit: April 10, 2011, 02:26:34 PM by PsycoMarauder »
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Re: New Ranking System
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2011, 12:12:41 AM »

A+++ system Awesome work Psyco and Newrelic...I hope to donate soon

Payout system is awesome

Very Nice Ranking System Overall

....I hope all agree
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Re: New Ranking System
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2011, 05:39:27 AM »

I find it wierd, probably because I dont understand it, but I dont care about the rank so its ok with me :)
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Re: New Ranking System
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2011, 11:11:23 AM »

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Re: New Ranking System
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2011, 03:45:48 PM »

The formula was adjusted prior to S4 starting. Any thoughts on the new ranking system?
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Re: New Ranking System
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2011, 03:53:14 PM »

Haven't played much at all yet but after reading it over it looks good. Players with experience and skill will excel in this ranking system as well but maybe some players with a decent W/L (like 40-50%) that get 2nd place a lot and have a nice k/d will get more recognition (what nobody said).

Can't wait for 1v1, it's going to be cutthroat haha.

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Re: New Ranking System
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2011, 02:26:51 PM »

*bump 1v1 details added.
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Re: New Ranking System
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2011, 02:38:09 PM »

We would be very interested in any feedback given.

I came up with the Skill formula (although credit to Psyco and NewRelic for the whole Payout system), and at the start of the season we have a unique opportunity to make minor adjustments to the numbers.
Major changes, or minor ones arising later in the season, will probably have to wait for the next season, however.

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Re: New Ranking System
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2011, 03:11:34 AM »

New ranking system is unbalanced
i (Pietros) have 2/2 K/D and 107 place in rank...
player (www.raped.com.) have 2/2 K/D and he is on 19 place... Why such a difference?
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Re: New Ranking System
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2011, 04:22:40 AM »

He has a better KD, and has beaten better players. And, accordingly, his payouts are higher. Also, the games he lost were to some high ranked players, as opposed to your lower ranked losses. Don't see the issue here.
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Re: New Ranking System
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2011, 02:43:43 PM »

Would be nice if this formula get improved a bit, because I don't understand that i should get a ranking points Minus when i beat low ranked people.
I do understand that it should give so much Points etc, but at least, when they are really so bad, let it dont negate my stats when i win clearly but make it neutral - non-affecting the rank, but only the k/d & general stats like kills, deaths etc.

In the end i dont want to wait 3 hours for a game to play, I play the guys i meet in the game lobby and get punished for Activity?? :(
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Re: New Ranking System
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2011, 04:35:48 PM »

Would be nice if this formula get improved a bit, because I don't understand that i should get a ranking points Minus when i beat low ranked people.
I do understand that it should give so much Points etc, but at least, when they are really so bad, let it dont negate my stats when i win clearly but make it neutral - non-affecting the rank, but only the k/d & general stats like kills, deaths etc.

In the end i dont want to wait 3 hours for a game to play, I play the guys i meet in the game lobby and get punished for Activity?? :(

Yes, sorry, the 1v1 stats are going to be completely overhauled in the coming week.
I was supposed to write an all-new formula (the one currently being used was the FFA one I designed, which was never meant for 1v1) today, but I forgot.
I am out all of tomorrow, but hopefully on Wednesday I will write a 1v1 formula (probably ELO-based) and the stats will be recalculated with that.

Thanks for the feedback,
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Re: New Ranking System
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2011, 04:25:33 AM »

Hmm okay, so my current stats will be totally recalculated? Good that you're working on it :)   Ofc a formula for FFA wont work for 1v1 this way, but it was already kinda nice you just sould the influences of several stuff like Low rank of the enemy a bit and never let it be negative if you WIN... Oo  Otherwise this formula is pretty well-working it just would need to be improved abit and would work well for 1v1 also

np for FB, ofc i will cuz i want f**king good stats >_< :D
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Re: New Ranking System
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2011, 04:40:53 AM »

Well the 1v1 formula is different from ffa because it rewards you with your opponents skill points in payout. But yeah I agree that tweaking might fix it but an ELO is a pretty proven 1v1 system so hopefully Fallen can come up with a good formula similar to that.
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Re: New Ranking System
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2011, 08:32:26 AM »

Quote from FFA - concerning skillpoints

"This rating is based upon your W/L, KD, amount of games you've gotten the best KDA in, and the amount of high ranked games you've won."

Does this mean that if u win a lot u will get a lower skill ratio?
How can a kd of 1,4 only result in skill= 1,5 ?
If u get best kda in 10 games, does that mean u get a higher skill ratio compared to if u have best kda in 5 games? In other words, will a player with 20 wins always rank higher on skill than a player with 2 wins, although their kd's are the same?

A spesific case I was wondering about:
I won a game against the player ranked 34 at the time. I had a decent kd of 1,4 and had about twice as many kills (dunno if total kill amount matters although it really should).
He got skill payout, for his 2nd place, 34 points
I got, for my first place, 1,5 points.

Please explain?
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